GROSS: Now, I read - and I don’t want to dwell on this - but I read that when you were 22 - I think that was right after you got out of the - NYU’s Tisch School for the Arts - that you had been drinking and using pills and went into rehab. So, I assume that you don’t drink anymore; is that - because a lot of people who do that, like, feel like they can’t drink. So, my question is, if it’s true that you can’t drink, what do you do when, like, you see people, like, really enjoying their wine and beer or their, you know, cognac or whatever? Like, do you resent it? Do you know what I am saying? Do you have to -
SEYMOUR HOFFMAN: Well, I think if - I think if -
GROSS: Does it make you feel resentful that there is this, like, great pleasure out there and, like, you can’t have any?
SEYMOUR HOFFMAN: Well, I don’t think it’s a great pleasure; do you know what I mean? Meaning, like, I understand, though, I think - I do think it’s a great pleasure, but I think that anyone who’s enjoying that pleasure too much, you know? I’m always like, OK, well, that’s good. I’m glad you’re enjoying that, you know? People who don’t have a problem with alcohol don’t have a problem with alcohol. You know, they have their couple of glasses of wine and they go on their way. You know what I mean? And that’s just the way it is. I am just not one of those people. So, it’s - you know, a couple of glasses of wine is, you know, not interesting to me at all. You know what I mean? That’s what I meant by it’s not a…
GROSS: Right, right.
SEYMOUR HOFFMAN: It’s not a great pleasure for me to have a couple of glasses of wine. That just - that’s kind of annoying.